Religion

Hugh Ross’s old-earth creationist organization, Reasons to Believe, has issued a statement on “Expelled”: Dear RTB Chapter members, With the impending release of “EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed” (April 18), the Reasons to Believe scholar team thought it best to prepare a statement of our position, a guide for answering questions from chapters, networks, and apologists. Keep in mind that the mission of RTB centers on reaching out to science-minded people with two purposes: ...

The Atheist Blogger points out that “Expelled” is violating the license terms on the blog theme used at their blog. A commenter at The Playlist blog points out that while they did indeed purchase a license to use The Killers’ song “All These Things That I’ve Done,” they did so in a deceptive way. Here’s how they described the film that they wanted the license for: The film is a satirical documentary with an estimated running time of 1 hour and 50 minutes, exploring academic freedom in public schools and government institutions with actor, comedian, economist, Ben Stein as the spokesperson.No mention of intelligent design or evolution. That’s a similar tactic to the deception they used to get some of the interviews in the film.

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Ed Brayton has written an article about the Richard Sternberg controversy at the Smithsonian for Skeptic magazine, which will appear in the next issue. The article has been published online in advance, along with an article by Michael Shermer about his interaction with Ben Stein. UPDATE (April 18, 2008): Ed Brayton has responded to the Discovery Institute’s “non-response” on the Sternberg affair.

On April 15, “getexpelled,” a user which has been posting the official clips from the movie “Expelled,” posted new animation footage of the operations of the cell which is clearly not derived from XVIVO’s footage. (ERV refers to this footage as a “toddler animation” and “a shitty Las-Vegas-Meets-TeleTubbies ‘Inner Life’”.) I suspect they already took action to put this new footage into the film that will come out tomorrow instead of the animation which they copied from XVIVO, which means that they have already complied with that demand from XVIVO’s infringement letter. That also means that their lawsuit for a declaratory judgment in Texas is really an argument that this new footage is not infringing, which they’ll probably win–this footage is not infringing. But it also means that, yet again, they’ve been thoroughly deceptive in how they operate, and have implicitly admitted that they were, in fact, infringing XVIVO’s copyright in the footage that they showed in the early screenings. That’s probably not worth the effort for XVIVO to sue them over. But it’s definitely worth pointing out. UPDATE (April 22, 2008): Apparently the XVIVO-infringing animation is still in the released film, after all. ...

Actor Jason Beghe, who appeared as Demi Moore’s love interest in “G.I. Jane” as well as in episodes of “Numb3rs” and “CSI,” was a member of the Church of Scientology since first taking courses in 1994. In 2005, he appeared in promotional videos for the church. He’s now left Scientology and has appeared in a video made by long-time Scientology critic Mark Bunker: UPDATE: Since YouTube has removed not only the above clip but Mark Bunker’s YouTube account, here’s an Australian TV news story about Beghe leaving Scientology: Here’s a rehosted version of the original interview clip: Here’s an interview of Beghe by Tony Ortega, a journalist who used to write for Phoenix New Times and New Times LA, who has written several good stories on Scientology: ...

Discovery Institute Fellow and bad movie critic Michael Medved has written an article arguing that an atheist should not be elected U.S. president. P.Z. Myers gives it a hilarious fisking at Pharyngula.

Yesterday I spent a few hours being filmed in an interview for a DVD being put out by Creationist Ministries International, a 20-year retrospective on the 1988 debate at the University of New South Wales between Duane Gish and Ian Plimer. I went back and forth a few times about whether I should do it, finally concluding that it would be worthwhile. I have no fear of an “Expelled”-like distortion in this case–the questions were provided to me in advance, and I negotiated the terms of the release agreement and had my attorney review it. I have the right to use the full footage myself (to put on YouTube or otherwise distribute or broadcast), so if I were to find myself misrepresented through creative editing (which I don’t believe will happen), I would be able to demonstrate it. My involvement was requested because of the role I played in criticizing Plimer and certain of the Australian Skeptics for misrepresentations of the creationists, which I wrote about first in the article “Some Failures of Organized Skepticism” in The Arizona Skeptic, and later in “How Not to Argue with Creationists” in the Creation/Evolution journal, “How Not to Respond to Criticism” which is available online through the talkorigins.org website, and in my review of Plimer’s book Telling Lies for God, on my website. In preparation for the interview, I dug out my file folders regarding these articles, which amounts to a stack of paper about six inches thick. Reviewing the files, I re-read some of the correspondence I had with Mark Plummer, then president of the Victoria Branch of the Australian Skeptics, and former executive director of CSICOP (now CSI). At some point, I should put some of that stuff online–it was quite unbelievable. I thought it went pretty well, though it took me several takes to get through some of the questions, and I didn’t say everything I wanted to say. The one item that I kick myself for forgetting to say was to emphasize the point that Duane Gish, debater for young-earth creationism, has two things that he always refuses to debate–the age of the earth and flood geology. Those also happen to be the two main areas of positive claims that make up young-earth creationism, which he rules out of court at the start of every debate. The interviewer, Tim, is a CMI supporter who once applied for a job with Answers in Genesis and is now happy that he didn’t get it, since he feels he was deceived by them about their split from CMI. The cameraman, Mike, who was hired for this job, was also a Christian, but didn’t seem to be a young-earth creationist. He frequently films both interviews and outdoor nature footage, often for science documentaries, and he expressed his love for knowledge and science. We had an interesting discussion after the interview about creationism, Christianity, and science. Tim took the position that young-earth creationism is an essential part of Christianity, because God must have been able to communicate his word accurately in the first place, because Jesus endorsed the truth of Genesis, and because death before the Fall in Eden would imply that God didn’t create a perfect universe. He also holds the position that only “operational science” is valid science–that which can take place in the laboratory and be “directly observed” (which philosophers of science know is very little, since instrument-assisted and even naked-eye observation is “theory-laden”). (Tim’s view of science, where it came from, and what’s wrong with it is the subject of Christopher Toumey’s excellent book, God’s Own Scientists: Creationists in a Secular World.) I pointed out to him that that’s the kind of choice–young-earth creationism or atheism–that helped drive me to atheism. Mike, by contrast, didn’t think young-earth creationism was essential to Christianity, but that the discoveries of science open more possibilities for religious interpretation. Today, I agree with Mike–given what I know about religions and how they work, Christianity is not defined solely in terms of the content of the Bible, even for evangelical Christians. Fundamentalism as it exists today didn’t exist until the early twentieth century. And even within evangelical Christianity, there are those who have argued very forcefully against young-earth creationism (I pulled out my copy of Daniel Wonderly’s Neglect of Geologic Data: Sedimentary Strata Compared With Young Earth from the Interdisciplinary Biblical Research Institute, and could have also pointed to Davis Young and Howard Van Till’s Science Held Hostage: What’s Wrong with Creation Science and Evolutionism, or pointed to Mike Beidler’s blog, “The Creation of an Evolutionist”). I think it’s interesting that if all Christians took Tim’s viewpoint rather than Mike’s, there would probably be a lot more atheists and a lot fewer Christians. UPDATE (January 1, 2009): I wrote up my initial reaction to the completed documentary here, and you can view the video yourself here. ...

Wesley Elsberry points out that Ben Stein has reported in an interview that he was approached for the “Expelled” project, described more or less as it finally came to be, back in 2006. Part of the pitch was that he was shown XVIVO’s “Inner Life of the Cell” video. Yet in April 2007 (a month after the “expelledthemovie.com” domain was registered), Mark Mathis obtained the cooperation of Genie Scott, P.Z. Myers, and other participants by pitching the nonexistent film “Crossroads,” about the intersection of science and religion, from “Rampant Films,” which had an innocuous website and an address at an empty apartment complex in Los Angeles. Stein’s interview provides further evidence that “Crossroads” was a dishonest subterfuge and that the “Expelled” crowd fully intended to use XVIVO’s film in their movie and did not commission their copy until after William Dembski was sent a cease and desist notice in September 2007, delaying the film’s release from February to April. See Wesley’s Austringer blog for more details.

ERV reports that Mike Edmondson, who was listed as the animator for “Expelled,” has left his employment with Premise Media and asked to have his name removed from their website. (UPDATE: It looks like Edmondson probably was responsible for the “Beware the Believers” YouTube video, but not the ripoff of the XVIVO film. Good for him for cutting ties with these liars and thieves.) (UPDATE April 21, 2008: It’s been confirmed that Edmondson made “Beware the Believers.") She also points out that it is William Dembski who observed that “Expelled”’s producers set aside budget for copyright infringement lawsuits. And that Jonathan Wells is helping with the foot bullets by claiming that “Expelled” produced their version of the XVIVO film in 3 months with one guy (where it took XVIVO a team of people 14 months). Looks like ERV is the blog to watch on this issue. She’s also the one who documented that William Dembski knew well that he was violating XVIVO’s copyright.