ApostAZ podcast #9

ApostAZ podcast #9 is out, and it’s something new and different–atheists Brad and Shannon in conversation and debate with evangelical Christian hip-hop artist Vocab Malone and Omri Miles. Episode 009 Atheism and Evangelism in Phoenix! Go to atheists.meetup.com/157 for group events! What can be euphemistically termed a conversation between two non-believers, an evangelist, and a non-denominational Christian. Guests Vocab Malone and Omri Miles. How long can a civil conversation last? Brad’s brain turns to mush (even more than usual)! Additional info from Susan Jacoby’s History of American Secularism (great book, buy it!)There’s an interesting followup exchange between Vocab and Brad at the Phoenix Atheists Meetup Group forum. The ApostAZ podcast is also now available through iTunes. I’m looking forward to listening to this one, and may add some commentary here and at the Phoenix Atheists Meetup Group forum when I do.

September 24, 2008 · 1 min

Sam Harris on Sarah Palin and elitism

Sam Harris has a great op-ed piece at Newsweek: The problem, as far as our political process is concerned, is that half the electorate revels in Palin’s lack of intellectual qualifications. When it comes to politics, there is a mad love of mediocrity in this country. “They think they’re better than you!” is the refrain that (highly competent and cynical) Republican strategists have set loose among the crowd, and the crowd has grown drunk on it once again. “Sarah Palin is an ordinary person!” Yes, all too ordinary. ...

September 21, 2008 · 9 min

Palin's Christianity

I’ve previously written to critique claims that Sarah Palin is a Christian reconstructionist or dominionist, or that she’s a young-earth creationist or tried to put creationism in the public schools. I still stand behind the former argument, but I think there is now some evidence that she is a young-earth creationist and supported Mat-Su Borough School Board candidates who aimed to put creationism in the public schools, but never got a majority on the school board. There’s also now evidence that Palin is an advocate of pushing an allegedly secularized version of principles from Bill Gothard’s Institute in Basic Life Principles, which I previously wrote about here when serial killer Matthew Murray blamed them for his problems. Palin’s Creationism David Talbot’s article at Salon.com about Sarah Palin’s clashes with Rev. Howard Bess over his book about how churches should deal with homosexuality contained a passage that stated that she is a young-earth creationist: Another valley activist, Philip Munger, says that Palin also helped push the evangelical drive to take over the Mat-Su Borough school board. “She wanted to get people who believed in creationism on the board,” said Munger, a music composer and teacher. “I bumped into her once after my band played at a graduation ceremony at the Assembly of God. I said, ‘Sarah, how can you believe in creationism – your father’s a science teacher.’ And she said, ‘We don’t have to agree on everything.’ “I pushed her on the earth’s creation, whether it was really less than 7,000 years old and whether dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. And she said yes, she’d seen images somewhere of dinosaur fossils with human footprints in them."Munger said the same thing on his own blog: In June 1997, both Palin and I had responsibilities at the graduation ceremony of a small group of Wasilla area home schoolers. I directed the Mat-Su College Community Band, which played music, and she gave the commencement address. It was held at her [former -jjl] church, the Wasilla Assembly of God. Palin had recently become Wasilla mayor, beating her earliest mentor, John Stein, the then-incumbent mayor. A large part of her campaign had been to enlist fundamentalist Christian groups, and invoke evangelical buzzwords into her talks and literature. As the ceremony concluded, I bumped into her in a hall away from other people. I congratulated her on her victory, and took her aside to ask about her faith. Among other things, she declared that she was a young earth creationist, accepting both that the world was about 6,000-plus years old, and that humans and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time. I asked how she felt about the second coming and the end times. She responded that she fully believed that the signs of Jesus returning soon “during MY lifetime,” were obvious. “I can see that, maybe you can’t - but it guides me every day."I spoke with Philip Munger by telephone on September 17, hoping to be able to find others who could confirm Palin’s creationist views. Unfortunately, he said that there weren’t other witnesses to his conversation, but he did give me a lot of background information about Palin’s political career. He said that the Wasilla government had been dominated by Democrats until 1994, when it shifted to Republicans and John Stein became mayor. Stein was Palin’s original political mentor, but she decided to run against Stein in 1996, under the tutelage of Alaska State Rep. Victor Kohring, Republican representative from Wasilla, who began a 3.5-year prison term for corruption in July. Munger described Kohring, a member of the Christian Businessman’s Association, as a member of the religious right. Stein, while a Republican, was vulnerable to attack as being not sufficiently conservative, due to the fact that his wife is a pro-choice Democrat who hasn’t taken his last name. Munger told me that Palin also supported a slate of religious right candidates for the Mat-Su Borough School Board, including Cheryl Turner, who he described as a creationist. But he said that the creationists didn’t win a majority on the school board, and as a result made no attempt to push that agenda. Munger said that he called in a question to Sarah Palin when she appeared on the Don Fagan program around October of 2006, and he asked her if her views on creationism had moderated since the Dover case. Her response indicated that her views had not changed, and that she had no idea what the Dover case was. Munger offered to explain it to her in detail if she contacted him, but she never did. He said that she didn’t say anything to explicitly endorse creationism, instead resorting to the same tactics suggested by the Discovery Institute of protecting academic freedom, allowing “both” views to be taught, teaching the controversy, etc. My impression is that Palin is likely a young-earth creationist, but not one who knows much about it or has it high on her agenda for political change. She’s probably smart enough to see that such could be a liability for her future political career and so will avoid questions about it or answer in generalities. Palin and Bill Gothard Sarah Posner has a new article at Salon.com titled “Sarah Palin, faith-based mayor." This article points out that the Wasilla City Council passed a resolution in April 2000 at her direction declaring Wasilla to be a “City of Character” and a supporter of the International Association of Character Cities, run by Steven Menzel. This organization promotes a secularized version of the principles from Bill Gothard’s Institute in Basic Life Principles, which is a sort of Christianity-lite cult that promotes the prosperity gospel and a whole lot of craziness like this: Wives who work outside the home are to be compared to harlots — Bill Gothard ...

September 20, 2008 · 9 min

Iraq peace: surge working, or results of ethnic cleansing?

Reuters reports that nighttime satellite photos from Sunni Arab areas of Baghdad show that the lights in those areas began to go out before the U.S. troop surge began in 2007, suggesting that population shift, rather than the surge, may have had greater responsibility for the drop in violence.

September 20, 2008 · 1 min

The Religious Right's Religious Right

Ed Brayton at Dispatches from the Culture Wars discusses those right-wing Christians who oppose Sarah Palin because God doesn’t want women to hold leadership positions or even vote. He lays out some choice quotes from Covenant News, the website promoting these extreme views, and observes that this website is the home to contributors such as Gary North and Ron Paul.

September 17, 2008 · 1 min

Walking with the Dinosaurs

Kat and I went last night to see “Walking with Dinosaurs” at the U.S. Airways Center in Phoenix. It was a visually impressive show–they did a great job on the dinosaurs, which were quite realistic in appearance and movement, with only minor distractions. The smaller dinosaurs were operated by a person inside, whose legs were partially visible since a human’s legs don’t fit into the shape of the dinosaur’s legs. The larger dinosaurs were each mounted on some kind of flat long vehicle that was colored to match the floor, but was still visible. The music was loud and somewhat bombastic, the kind of stirring movie soundtrack music that can be sometimes irritating–but not as much so as the typical Phoenix Suns intro that regularly happens at the same location. The dinosaurs movements involved very limited interactions with each other–only occasionally so much as touching each other–which made the “battles” more of a suggestion than a depiction. No doubt this was to avoid damaging some expensive dinosaurs. The production was narrated by an actor playing “Huxley” the paleontologist, who walked around on the floor with the dinosaurs, describing the historical context with the help of video projected onto several screens. The arena itself was encircled by inflatable plant life that “grew” and “died” at the appropriate times. Some lighting and smoke effects also contributed to the atmosphere, for fires, volcanos, and the comet theory of the K-T mass extinction. Some other props included some giant rocks which were also used to represent the continents, and a big ball of dinosaur poop (one of several kid-pleasing elements that I also appreciated). It was definitely a bit more on the entertainment side of “edutainment” than the education side. Although the script tried to convey the timescales involved, it didn’t try very hard–some visual analogies on the video screen might have helped. It explained the difference between fossils of dead animals and trace fossils that show evidence of how they lived, but made no attempt to talk about the geological strata or how we know the enormous ages involved. It didn’t, to my mind, do much of anything to try to proactively counter young-earth creationist nonsense about the dinosaurs. And that was a pity, because as we left the arena, we were confronted by young-earth creationists from the Arizona Origin Science Association handing out copies of Ken Ham’s booklet, “What REALLY Happened to the Dinosaurs?” I heard one gentleman come back and ask for another copy, saying “my brother[-in-law?] is an evolutionary biologist, and I want to give him one.” I hope that man’s relative takes the time to rebut it. There are some photos and video of “Walking with Dinosaurs” at Brian Switek’s Laelaps blog, along with his description of the show. ...

September 14, 2008 · 5 min

ASU WebDevil article on FFRF billboards

Christina Caldwell has written a thoughtful and positive piece on the FFRF billboards in Phoenix for Arizona State University’s student newspaper online.

September 10, 2008 · 1 min

Post-Mormon billboard in Gilbert

A “You are not alone” billboard promoting a group for people who have left the Mormon religion is up in Mesa, put up by Paul Hahn of www.postmormon.org. Unlike usual anti-Mormon proselytizing, this group isn’t promoting evangelical Christianity–it’s religiously neutral, and its website includes comments about Richard Dawkins’ “Root of All Evil,” the film “Jesus Camp,” and a debate between Rev. Al Sharpton and Christopher Hitchens, along with criticisms of Mormonism based on DNA evidence and the history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, which are good rational reasons not to believe in the religion.

September 9, 2008 · 1 min

FFRF billboards are up

A group of us from the Phoenix Atheists Meetup had lunch today near one of the billboards and used the occasion for a photo op. This is one of the five billboards, which, contrary to my earlier descriptions, are all of the “Imagine No Religion” design. Too bad, I would have liked to have seen the “Beware of Dogma” design up, as well as the “Keep Religion Out of Politics” slogan. (If I obtain permission, I’ll update this photo with one of the group shots, which can be seen at the Phoenix Atheists Meetup site.) There’s some additional coverage in Ed Montini’s column at the Arizona Republic.

September 7, 2008 · 1 min

Palin Christian heritage declaration misquotes, misrepresents

Last year, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin declared “Christian Heritage Week” in Alaska from October 21-27, 2007, with a proclamation that misquoted and misrepresented various Founding Fathers, at least two of whom would have opposed just such a proclamation (Jefferson and Madison). Ed Brayton at Dispatches from the Culture Wars steps through her proclamation and corrects the misinformation. tom (2008-09-02): Andrew Sullivan had these up as well:Justifying her position on the Alaskan pipeline:"I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that."On Iraq:for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan.On the Pledge:Q: Are you offended by the phrase "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not? PALIN: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.I can't imagine that this is going to help McCain's numbers with independents. ...

September 2, 2008 · 2 min
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