Creationism

ERV reports that Mike Edmondson, who was listed as the animator for “Expelled,” has left his employment with Premise Media and asked to have his name removed from their website. (UPDATE: It looks like Edmondson probably was responsible for the “Beware the Believers” YouTube video, but not the ripoff of the XVIVO film. Good for him for cutting ties with these liars and thieves.) (UPDATE April 21, 2008: It’s been confirmed that Edmondson made “Beware the Believers.") She also points out that it is William Dembski who observed that “Expelled”’s producers set aside budget for copyright infringement lawsuits. And that Jonathan Wells is helping with the foot bullets by claiming that “Expelled” produced their version of the XVIVO film in 3 months with one guy (where it took XVIVO a team of people 14 months). Looks like ERV is the blog to watch on this issue. She’s also the one who documented that William Dembski knew well that he was violating XVIVO’s copyright.

“Expelled” producer Mark Mathis says that Christians who believe in evolution were intentionally excluded from the film because they “would have confused the film unnecessarily.” (Don’t confuse people with the truth!) He goes on to say that “the form of Catholicism that Ken Miller [biology professor at Brown University and co-author of a popular biology textbook] accepts and practices is, is nowhere near the form of Catholicism that is followed by Catholics who are members of the Catholic church, who believe in Catholic doctrine." Mathis, who is not a Catholic, is apparently unaware that Miller’s view of evolution is consistent with the official position of the Catholic Church as set forth by both Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI. The Catholic Church’s position on evolution has been that it’s not in conflict with Christianity, since Pope Pius XII. Mathis should also take a look at the NCSE’s Voices for Evolution, where he’ll find that a lot of other Christian sects similarly have no problem with evolution. “Expelled” and its producers seem to want to force a false dilemma of a choice between Christianity or evolution, just as the young-earth creationists do. They don’t seem to realize that this kind of forced choice is one which will make any honest, inquiring mind who accepts the false dilemma to choose against Christianity. J.P. Hunt, a student in Ray Baird’s 1980 “balanced treatment” class on creationism and evolution at Emma C. Smith Elementary School in Livermore, California, said on the 1982 PBS show “Creation vs. Evolution: Battle in the Classroom”: Someone that I know has become an atheist because of this class, because the creationist theory was so stupid, he thought. Well, if religion requires me to believe this, then I don’t want to have any part of it.I don’t find this too objectionable as a consequence, personally. Learning that I was lied to by young-earth creationists was a significant factor in my abandonment of creationism, then Christianity, and then theism. The rampant dishonesty of the “Expelled” crowd will no doubt serve the same effect for others like me, and cause them to look to see if they’ve been similarly lied to about other things. Odds are, they will find that they have. (Via Stranger Fruit.)

Another negative review for the film, by Jeffrey Kluger. He specifically calls out the film for dishonesty: The man made famous by Ferris Bueller, however, quickly wades into waters far too deep for him. He makes all the usual mistakes nonscientists make whenever they try to take down evolution, asking, for example, how something as complex as a living cell could have possibly arisen whole from the earth’s primordial soup. The answer is it couldn’t–and it didn’t. Organic chemicals needed eons of stirring and slow cooking before they could produce compounds that could begin to lead to a living thing. More dishonestly, Stein employs the common dodge of enumerating all the admittedly unanswered questions in evolutionary theory and using this to refute the whole idea. But all scientific knowledge is built this way. A fishnet is made up of a lot more holes than strings, but you can’t therefore argue that the net doesn’t exist. Just ask the fish. ...

Scientific American: …it seems a safe bet that the producers hope a whipping from us would be useful for publicity: further proof that any mention of ID outrages the close-minded establishment. (Picture Ben Stein as Jack Nicholson, shouting, “You can’t handle the truth!”) Knowing this, we could simply ignore the movie–which might also suit their purposes, come to think of it. Unfortunately, Expelled is a movie not quite harmless enough to be ignored. Shrugging off most of the film’s attacks–all recycled from previous pro-ID works–would be easy, but its heavy-handed linkage of modern biology to the Holocaust demands a response for the sake of simple human decency. ...

XVIVO LLC has sent a copyright infringement warning letter to Premise Media about the computer animation that appears to have been based on XVIVO’s “The Inner Life of a Cell.” Some have speculated that “Expelled”’s release was moved from February to April because it had used the XVIVO film directly (just as William Dembski and other Discovery Institute fellows had been doing in public lectures), and they used the time to re-create the animation on their own. The letter says that XVIVO considers the segment in the film to still be close enough to be an infringement of their intellectual property rights, and demands: That Premise Media, Rampant Films, and its officers, employees, and agents remove the infringing segment from all copies of the “Expelled” film prior to its scheduled commercial release on or before April 18, 2008; ...

Mike Beidler stopped by to post a comment on the post about “truth tickets,” and I’m very pleased to see his blog, “The Creation of an Evolutionist," which describes his personal journey from being a young-earth creationist to accepting the fact and theory of evolution. It’s people like Mike that are the most likely to have an influence on changing the minds of current young-earth creationists. Because of that, it’s also the case that people like Mike often get to take even more heat from creationist organizations than we atheists receive. Those organizations are premised on the assumption that Christianity requires creationism, and Mike is a living, breathing, and forcefully arguing counterexample. I, like Mike, used to be a young-earth creationist, but my journey continued on to the rejection of Christianity and theism. ...

Roger Friedman at Fox News reviews “Expelled”: “Expelled” is a sloppy, all-over-the-place, poorly made (and not just a little boring) “expose” of the scientific community. It’s not very exciting. But it does show that Stein, who’s carved out a career selling eye drops in commercials and amusing us on sitcoms, is either completely nuts or so avaricious that he’s abandoned all good sense to make a buck.Looks like “Expelled”’s positive reviews are limited to those by right-wing political talk show hosts on whose shows they’re buying advertising. ...

Alonzo Fyfe, the Atheist Ethicist, has come up with an interesting suggestion–rather than purchase a ticket to go see “Expelled,” purchase a “truth ticket” by sending a contribution equal in value to a movie ticket ($10 is the suggested number) to the National Center for Science Education. (Click that link, and select “donation only.”) Alonzo’s sending 10 “truth tickets” worth of payment to the NCSE to promote good science. I’ll match him, and raise him 5 “truth tickets.” Anyone else care to buy a few? Pass it on… UPDATE (April 8, 2008): P.Z. Myers compares this idea to carbon offsets. The Panda’s Thumb has also reported on the idea. UPDATE: BTW, if you must see the film in the theater (my wife and I rarely go to the movies anymore, since Netflix is so much more convenient, and I don’t really have any interest in seeing this movie in any case), wait until after opening weekend. The “stupidity offset” for contributing to the opening weekend box office gross should probably be a much, much larger donation to the NCSE–better to make a smaller donation and see it the following week, if you must. ...

Wesley Elsberry has been in an extended exchange with Kevin Miller, co-writer of “Expelled,” in which Miller makes it clear that he’s unwilling to look at or attempt to address any actual evidence. Instead, he falls back on supporting postmodernist claims that everything is subject to interpretation. But he doesn’t give any reasons to support his purported interpretation, and ultimately descends into namecalling. Historical Comments Eamon Knight (2008-04-06): The reductio absurdum of fundamentalist absolutism: citing post-modern relativism in their defense.It is to laugh. ...

Movies.go.com is another site that now lists “Expelled” with an April 18 release date, and includes a poll on how good you think the movie is likely to be. With 474 votes, the ratings are: A - Sizzlin’: 11% B - Cool: 1% C - Decent: 1% D - DVD-only: 2% F - Vile: 85% Gridman (2008-04-05): I didn't vote until after you posted the link to the vote and it saids there were only 467 votes after I voted...More expelled trickery? :-)Still 85% vile, though... ...